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Post by Scanjet on Apr 14, 2007 14:26:04 GMT
Ok for the majority of season 1 we learn about the vamps and see these amazing senses they have and how skilled they are in different areas. After learning this should we really have known someone like Birdget was gonna come along? A vampire with these senses would of known about our vamps so really was that always how it was going to end, someone was always going to destory what had been set up?!
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Post by madascheese on Apr 14, 2007 15:56:24 GMT
hmm maybe...but, on the other hand, Murdoch does say that vampires are solitary creatures so in normal circumstances (i.e. if she wasn't being chased by the BPDA!) it would be more natural for her to avoid our lovely vamps than try to befriend or connect with them on any level  I think it's always easy to expect someone to come along and mess up something that's been set-up in total secrecy anyway - Hackett was always doing everyone's head in (pardon the English-ism, lovely Canadians *lolz*) by poking around, so when she stopped doing that it would make sense to have a different character trying to do the same thing but in a different manner - enter Bridget! My opinion is that we should have expected someone to come along and attempt to destroy the experiment, though not necessarily a vampire... *phew!*  |
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Post by Melissa Kane on Apr 15, 2007 15:37:11 GMT
Hmm, however it does beg the question, why didn't our vamps sense her before she crash landed at Mansbridge? They were deep in discussion, but there is no indication that they sensed Bridget coming. Maybe their vamp-senses were dulled by their training? Thats a good point, Mad, but Bridget was fleeing the BPDA (do we believe that or was she sent by the Fury?) I'm beginning to wonder whether the BPDA was being subtly monitored by Shakari and the other Fury vampires (though subtlety isn't their MO) and when they decided Marianne Hackett had given them enough information, they took a street-vamp (to use Essie's lovely term - Hehe!) and bullied her into doing their work for them. Pointing her in the right direction, she was told to get inside,find out what she could then get out - Karl's vulnerability was her way out and she was smart enough to take it. But why would she not be smart enough to realise that the Elders would be onto her? Hmm...I need to think more about this...or less?! *lol* 'Lissa.
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Post by madascheese on Apr 15, 2007 17:09:01 GMT
I think that's a great point - I'll bet the rationing of blood wouldn't help either, they wouldn't be at their optimum strength so I guess that would weaken them in certain areas. On a random tangent, do they have human blood or is it synthetic? I can't remember whether that's ever covered...I would presume that would effect them too As for Hackett, I reckon she's far too 'anti-vampire' to be in league with the Fury - and I doubt their elders would want to associate with someone who has a reputation for killing vampires, especially as the vamps in VH are depicted as being pretty tradition-bound and old fashioned, if you know what I mean (their thoughts of people are probably human = food = nice! lol) Furthermore, I would think that Shakari and co are old enough and experienced enough to know how to achieve their aims without having to rely on a 'mere mortal' for help! Perhaps Bridget is not as smart as she thinks she is...or maybe she genuinely didn't realise what she had stumbled upon until Karl told her about everything - so maybe she's not Fury!! The possibilities are endless!!  Hmmmmm...this is a great thread! Got me brain tickin'...which is fairly unusual ;-) *lolz*  |
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Post by Melissa Kane on Apr 16, 2007 10:14:10 GMT
...As for Hackett, I reckon she's far too 'anti-vampire' to be in league with the Fury - and I doubt their elders would want to associate with someone who has a reputation for killing vampires, especially as the vamps in VH are depicted as being pretty tradition-bound and old fashioned, if you know what I mean (their thoughts of people are probably human = food = nice! lol) Furthermore, I would think that Shakari and co are old enough and experienced enough to know how to achieve their aims without having to rely on a 'mere mortal' for help! Perhaps Bridget is not as smart as she thinks she is...or maybe she genuinely didn't realise what she had stumbled upon until Karl told her about everything - so maybe she's not Fury!! The possibilities are endless!! Hmmmmm...this is a great thread! Got me brain tickin'...which is fairly unusual ;-) *lolz* Ooh, sorry Mad. I wasn't implying that Hackett was voluntarily helping the Fury - but Shakari and the other Fury are unable to hunt for their enemies (the Elders) by day. Hackett's hatred of vampires is roughly equal to his own of the Elders so perhaps one if his drones was sent in to "infest" one of Hackett's team in order to: A) Learn what they know and B) Use that intelligence to destroy the Elders' master plan. Shakari obviously knows the location of the experiment, but it was proven that his own drones are not able to infiltrate or harm it in any major way. Hmm, you're right though, there's no proof that Brigit s particularly smart.  Oh dear, off on a tangent again, aren't I? *lmao* Hmm, heavy thinking isn't the forte of either of us, eh, Mad? *grinz* 'Lissa. |
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Post by Scanjet on Apr 17, 2007 9:29:03 GMT
Welllllllll lets try and look at this objectivley shall we...
Could Shakari have had someone above him as as sort of MASTER type of person, maybe even Hackett herself? She could of lied about the BPDA and to infiltrate used a cover. Or I supose really its more interesting to think that we have Hackett doing what she thinks is good and Shakari whats bad. Its like our vamps are in the middle of a seperate battle alltogether.
Also its funny as we should really be o Hackett's side for trying to get rid of he evil vamps but were not, its sorta ironic that we want the good one to fail! Well I do anyway!
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Post by Melissa Kane on Apr 21, 2007 21:42:43 GMT
*lol* We root for the anti-heroes this time! Yayy! Hmm...Hackett as Shakari's boss?! What an idea! *lol* But you know your idea about Shakari having a boss himself is intriguing. What if this higher vamp is also masquerading as Hackett's boss, perhaps manipulating the both of them in order to destroy the Elder's master plan. I'm liking this idea...and it leads back to one of the other topics around here somewhere - where did the Fury come from? What do we really know about them? Heck, we hardly know anything about the Elders, and they're the creators of the experiment, so how can we know the hierarchy of their opponents?  'Lissa. |
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Post by Scanjet on Apr 22, 2007 13:53:05 GMT
Well the question of The Fury was something that as going to be originally talked about in a prequel to the show that was planned yet never happend!
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Post by madascheese on Apr 22, 2007 23:27:50 GMT
ow...my brain hurts! too much thinking around the subject lolz!!
why didn't they just make another bloody season so we wouldn't have to ask these questions?? ;-)
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Post by Scanjet on Apr 23, 2007 12:44:11 GMT
I have been this mystical before but you never know...
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Post by layla on May 13, 2008 23:23:51 GMT
I have an idea.....
I think that at first all the vamps were just under one kind of rule, but when the eclipse happened something else happened and gave the vamps some vital choice about how to continue on as a race. That combined with being hunted down by the humans caused them to split off into two seperate groups with two seperate agendas for their ppl. So you have your "lets try to blend in and retrieve our humanity so we can survive" group and your "lets just go with comes natural and kill anything that moves" group.
Back to Bridget.....
The whole idea they didn't get a vibe from her coming feels like some writers typo. I mean, Merril could have easily read her mind and assessed the threat. If old Bridgie was as blood crazied as she seemed, I doubt she spent her time training to block mind readers.
It makes perfect sense that she was part of the Fury faction b/c she didn't seem to give a hoot about the elders or the prospect of meeting up with them and she was totally blood crazy. As least old Merrill's maker (her name escapes me just now) was civil (at first). I think arriving and staying fanged out was a clue.
I don't think that she was being chased by the BPDA b/c that Hackett lady was a really p.i.t.a. and she would have been all over that place if her ppl were literally chasing down a vamp in the area.
So I figure she just needed a place to sleep and sniffed out other vamps and when she found something interesting was probably running off to the Fury.
As far as the BPDA and the Fury are concerned. I think it's more like that the Fury keeps tabs on the BPDA in a way that the BPDA isn't really aware of and if anything really interesting pops up, like the Manbridge experiment, the Fury is all over it. Eh...but that's just my take on it.
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Post by grotchops on Dec 3, 2008 18:12:11 GMT
But then I do have a question, when Shakari sent the drone to the Academy it took over the messengers body and then Nick's why couldn't it take over the body Dr Murdoch. Why was Murdoch such an important part of the experiment even though the young Vampire's don't realize the signifcant importance of his role in all things, like why is he keeping the chain belonging Drakon, the Elders could have done that but Murdoch does have it,why was he present at the defeat of Drakon? So much questions not fair that they stopped the series, because I really want more.
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Oh dear, off on a tangent again, aren't I? *lmao*
